The Truth about Lio Kaufman

Who is Lio Kaufman? From my point of view he is a sad man who would rather be arguing with teenagers than working in a job to pay for his university education. He is to my knowledge still involved with Glamorgan Debating Society 9 years after joining it and 10 years after I helped co-found Glamorgan Debating Society.

Lio Kaufman has a resentment for me – but it is of his doing. At the 2005 Cardiff IV – a debating competition – there was a memorable debate which Lio Kaufman finds embarrassing. At the time however he found it as entertaining as others from the way I saw it.

At this debate my team, part of Glamorgan Debating Society, were to propose a motion, ‘This house believes Band Aid is no more than a band-aid.” My Glamorgan Debating Society team mate Mark and I had no idea how to propose this debate. So we squirrelled it – that is, we made the motion about something we did know about. In this case we were arguing we needed foundation hospitals in order to give people from former mining communities work experience as volunteers.

I was proposing the motion as the first speaker. I then said, “We should be treating doctors like they are horses, working all hours…” I was then interrupted to laughter from everyone at Glamorgan Debating Society, which the one judge joined in with – the other was Lio Kaufman’s girlfriend Maria. That was because at Glamorgan Debating Society I once extended a motion that was squirrelled to be about equal rights for gay people where the first proposition said that gay people are seen as “dirty” and that is why they should have equality. I said that horses face the same problem with how people perceive them and should have the same rights. This became an in-joke.

Lio Kaufman’s team-mate, Richard, who was an inexperienced debater, was the second speaker (first for the opposition) and did not know how to counter a closed motion becoming open. I can’t recall everything he said, but it made everyone laugh, and at the end of his speech one of the judges (not Lio’s girlfriend) said, “The team who makes me laugh the most will win.

When Lio Kaufman stood up he continued what turned out to be a legendary debate among those with a sense of humour, yet those who see debating as a way of life – like Lio Kaufman – later found what happened to be embarrassing and resentful. Lio blames me for this, when it was his fault for not being first opposition and keeping the debate on track rather than letting his team-mate Richard go up against me, as I was known for proposing motions that throw the first opposition off guard.

The debate brought in local club humour. For instance the Bath team, who were second proposition said that they would extend our policy by having ‘monkey porn’ on the wards. And somewhere along the line, it may have even been Lio Kaufman, someone said that our policy of having volunteers from former mining communities would be result in “Miners performing brain surgery on horses.

Throughout the whole of the competition that followed horse related jokes. In one of the final debates Lio Kaufmaneven said, “I am feeling a little horsed (in his voice) right now.” At the end of the debate the same judge who said people would be scored on the basis of humour changed his mind and marked people how they should have been judged.

Years later Lio Kaufman finds the whole experience embarrassing because he is still to my knowledge involved in university debating, at Glamorgan Debating Society, whilst others like me have used the experience to aid us in our real-life professions, such as me giving interviews on the radio and other media about topical issues.

Lio Kaufman now dominates Glamorgan debating along with his ally Timothy Goss, who some collectively call Tio.  Recently I tried to set the record straight on the University of Glamorgan Debating Society’s Facebook page, and I ended up getting blocked. Lio Kaufman said on the page I was told, “He should have done it years ago.

Lio Kaufman resents me because of his embarrassment. In my view he should blame himself for putting his inexperienced team-mate up against an experienced debater like me. I had been involved in the Glamorgan Debating Society since it was founded by James Brimble in 2002 when I started my first Masters degree. Lio Kaufman didn’t get involved in the Glamorgan Debating Society until Autumn 2003. I had a lot of experience by that time, as I had debated in the 2003 John Smith Memorial Mace with another founding member of the Glamorgan Debating Society, Colin Nosworthy. We were Glamorgan Debating Society’s first ever A-Team.

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